Black Crows Octo Birdie – review
The Black Crows Octo Birdie is a new‑school, women’s all‑terrain carver built for fun on groomers with just enough versatility to dip off the side. With an 84 mm waist, light tip rocker, classic medium camber and a distinctive swallowtail, it feels like a playful “UFO for carving”: ultra‑quick edge‑to‑edge, lively, and confidence‑building for short to medium turns.
Who is it for?
- Ability: solid intermediate to advanced; ambitious intermediates will progress quickly.
- Style: playful, rhythmic carving, quick turns over top‑speed charging.
- Terrain: groomers, hardpack, light bumps/trees; limited deep‑snow float.
On‑snow performance
- Groomers: The 14 m sidecut and medium camber deliver instant edge engagement and a springy finish. ABS sidewalls add bite on firm snow. At very high speeds it feels lively rather than bulldozer‑damp; it’s happiest linking short–medium arcs.
- Bumps/trees: Light tip rocker and the swallowtail effectively shorten the tail, making pivots and release easy. The flex is friendly; it rewards a centered‑to‑forward stance.
- Crud/chop: Poplar + fiberglass keep things light and nimble. It prefers to dance through irregularities rather than plow straight.
- Soft snow: At 84 mm, float is modest. The tip rises easily and the swallowtail lets the tail sink slightly, keeping tips free up to ankle/shin‑deep. Not a powder board, but fun in fresh corduroy and shallow soft snow.
Construction and tech
- Core: poplar wood with fiberglass – lively and accessible flex.
- Semi‑cap with ABS sidewalls – direct power, reliable edge hold, and durability.
- Reinforcement: several retailers note an aluminum plate underfoot for binding retention and precision.
- Mount point: recommended line yields a directional, carve‑centric feel; ±0.5–1 cm tweaks can fine‑tune balance.
Comparisons
- Black Crows Vertis Birdie (~85 mm): more traditional tail and slightly calmer demeanor; Octo Birdie turns shorter and feels looser/more playful in the tail.
- Blizzard Black Pearl 82/88: BP82 is more traditional and a touch more composed at speed; BP88 is more all‑mountain. Octo Birdie is nimbler and more fun‑focused, with less high‑speed damping.
- Head Total Joy: extremely light and quick, but less bite when conditions get rough. Octo Birdie offers stronger on‑edge grip and character, with a bit more mass.
- Nordica Santa Ana 84: more damp and powerful; Octo Birdie is easier to pivot and more lively at slower–moderate speeds.
Key takeaways
- Lightning‑quick edge‑to‑edge: 84 mm waist + 14 m radius favor short–medium carves.
- Playful tail feel: swallowtail promotes easy release and smeary, modern turns.
- Best on groomers: reliable grip and rebound, but not a high‑speed tank or deep‑pow tool.
- Friendly flex: poplar core and semi‑cap keep it lively and approachable.
Sizing and mounting
- Lengths: 155.3, 161.2, 167.2, 173.4 cm. For carving, think nose to eye height; advanced skiers can size up for stability.
- Mount: start on the factory line. For a more centered, playful stance, go +0.5 to +1 cm; for more directional stability, −0.5 cm.
Specs explained
- Rocker/camber: light front rocker + medium camber – easy initiation with strong on‑edge hold and rebound.
- Sidecut radius (14 m): short radius = rapid turn transitions and snappy, SL‑style fun.
- Tip/waist/tail: 124–127 / 84 / 113–114 mm – narrow waist for grip and quickness; straighter tail for precision with easier release from the swallow cut.
- Weight (≈2.9–3.1 kg/pair): mid‑pack mass balances stability and agility.
- Length run: four sizes to balance maneuverability vs. top‑end composure.
Frequently asked questions
Q: What skier level suits the Black Crows Octo Birdie?
A: Strong intermediates through advanced skiers who enjoy carving short to medium turns. It’s lively yet forgiving, making progression on groomers fast and fun.
Q: What does the swallowtail/fishtail do?
A: It reduces effective tail length, making the ski easier to release and smear while maintaining edge hold when pressured. It also helps keep tips up slightly in softer snow.
Q: How is edge hold on ice?
A: For an 84 mm all‑terrain carver, edge hold is very good thanks to camber and sidewalls. It’s not a race ski, but it bites confidently on firm morning groomers.
Q: Are bindings included?
A: No, the Black Crows Octo Birdie is sold flat; choose a binding to match your DIN and use case.
Verdict
If you want a modern, playful piste companion that carves with energy and doesn’t punish you when conditions vary, the Black Crows Octo Birdie is a standout. It rewards dynamic skiing at everyday speeds, with enough composure to keep confidence high—ideal for skiers who value agility and fun over brute force.